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    sailormatlac (Il y a 3 ans) #4412900Yep, most overpriced Suzumiya's figures ended in the bin, with some exceptions. I share a similar rule. If I know I did my best to get it at a decent price at that moment, I feel I did what I could, so no regret. Anyway, that happens with anything we buy. There's more chance a PCV collection will keep it's value than a car in 5 years!

    With my collection I noticed a lot of ups and downs, so in the end everything is worth about the same as I paid for! xD I wouldn't call figures an investment, but it's pretty good if you have multiple to sell at some point as you can get most of your money back. xD
    Il y a 3 ans
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    Maakie (Il y a 3 ans) #4390002Ah, most Koto GK's seem to be quite rare nowadays. I hope to own one, one day too!
    Hrrm, your example happened to a lot of Haruhi Suzumiya figures and merchandise in general. The series had crazy popularity when it just came out, but nowadays if you ask people about this series or character I guess only 50% really watched it or know about it... Some of the Figma's though, they kept their price or they have risen quite a bit.
    If I apply my own "rule" and only buy characters and series where I'm fan of, if a figure ends up dropping in price I at least won't regret it, because I like the character and want to support the series/artist anyways. :)


    Yep, most overpriced Suzumiya's figures ended in the bin, with some exceptions. I share a similar rule. If I know I did my best to get it at a decent price at that moment, I feel I did what I could, so no regret. Anyway, that happens with anything we buy. There's more chance a PCV collection will keep it's value than a car in 5 years!
    Il y a 3 ans
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    sailormatlac (Il y a 3 ans) #4342357Talking about Koto prompted me to repair my old Kotobukiya Sailor Moon GK. I'd say their "family-oriented" vibe makes them less problematic to exhibit!!! ;-)
    Aftermarket prices are indeed fun to track. As you pointed out, there's habitually two steps. The initial aftermarket price is driven by hype or unhype. Then 2 or 3 years later (sometimes more), the price readjust itself when the series is no more the new kid on the block. It still have to learn a lot about the general trends, but it is quite hard to predict. I remember this item ITEM #52 used to cost at least 200% her initial price in the first month after release. Nowadays, you can find her easily at about 1500Y which is dirt cheap (well, this applies to all Max Factory's Suzumiya line up).
    It's why I sometimes refrain from buying a figure I want but which isn't a priority and wait a few year later when it has lost all its value. Unfortunately, it doesn't always happen that way.


    Ah, most Koto GK's seem to be quite rare nowadays. I hope to own one, one day too!

    Hrrm, your example happened to a lot of Haruhi Suzumiya figures and merchandise in general. The series had crazy popularity when it just came out, but nowadays if you ask people about this series or character I guess only 50% really watched it or know about it... Some of the Figma's though, they kept their price or they have risen quite a bit.

    If I apply my own "rule" and only buy characters and series where I'm fan of, if a figure ends up dropping in price I at least won't regret it, because I like the character and want to support the series/artist anyways. :)
    Il y a 3 ans
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    Maakie (Il y a 3 ans) #4319102Yeah, right? I mean their latest figure I just pre-ordered ITEM #338779 for 7470 yen, which is with especially the rate of the yen to euro really good for me! Also quite some detail is going on with a nice base design. Any other manufacturer would probably ask 11-13K for something like this nowadays...
    About the sexy part...with the first BMG from then I was actually a bit let-down as she was made way more sexy than the character is in the series ITEM #42095 ... But in general Kotobukiya is less sexualized, yes. :P
    I think it's really interesting to follow figures on the aftermarket. Take my Calne for example ITEM #162402 Right after release she dropped almost 50% and is currently at almost 200% of her release price. You can't explain that!
    Yeah same for me, with prize figures I also take gambles quite a bit by pre-ordering from artwork or unpainted prototype only. If it's a let-down then, oh well...didn't spend a fortune on it. ;)
    I'm also trying to keep it to a few themes and series and have been trying to sell/trade a lot of my other items, but it keeps being hard to resist some non-list items every once in a while. ;)


    Talking about Koto prompted me to repair my old Kotobukiya Sailor Moon GK. I'd say their "family-oriented" vibe makes them less problematic to exhibit!!! ;-)

    Aftermarket prices are indeed fun to track. As you pointed out, there's habitually two steps. The initial aftermarket price is driven by hype or unhype. Then 2 or 3 years later (sometimes more), the price readjust itself when the series is no more the new kid on the block. It still have to learn a lot about the general trends, but it is quite hard to predict. I remember this item ITEM #52 used to cost at least 200% her initial price in the first month after release. Nowadays, you can find her easily at about 1500Y which is dirt cheap (well, this applies to all Max Factory's Suzumiya line up).

    It's why I sometimes refrain from buying a figure I want but which isn't a priority and wait a few year later when it has lost all its value. Unfortunately, it doesn't always happen that way.
    Il y a 3 ans
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    sailormatlac (Il y a 3 ans) #4269556I also don't understand the cold treatment against Kotobukiya. There are not doing exuberant pieces of art, but their figures are generally honest for the price. I bought a lot of their garage kits back in the days and it was always top notch, well engineered and fun to assemble. And their products are generally less sexy, which is sometimes a good thing.
    We all have the same problem about paying very high price for figures that get binned a few months or year laters for no apparent reason. Always hard to tell before hand. Though I perfectly understand the pre-order necessity, it also makes every buy almost a gamble.
    I consider prize figures the best deal out there. You can get very decent figures for 8$ to 18$ and most of them don't look silly. Also, they dare to do a lot of characters from many series. And when they turn out to be bad, the economic loss is negligeable.
    True, there's no point in buying every cute figure out there. I'm not immune to that and used to buy what I found cute many years ago. You quickly learn "cute" shouldn't be a criteria while dealing with this hobby! I've learned to keep the collection centered around a few major themes. I tell myself there's a lot of people to buy the things I can't and they will post great pictures to enjoy.


    Yeah, right? I mean their latest figure I just pre-ordered ITEM #338779 for 7470 yen, which is with especially the rate of the yen to euro really good for me! Also quite some detail is going on with a nice base design. Any other manufacturer would probably ask 11-13K for something like this nowadays...

    About the sexy part...with the first BMG from then I was actually a bit let-down as she was made way more sexy than the character is in the series ITEM #42095 ... But in general Kotobukiya is less sexualized, yes. :P

    I think it's really interesting to follow figures on the aftermarket. Take my Calne for example ITEM #162402 Right after release she dropped almost 50% and is currently at almost 200% of her release price. You can't explain that!

    Yeah same for me, with prize figures I also take gambles quite a bit by pre-ordering from artwork or unpainted prototype only. If it's a let-down then, oh well...didn't spend a fortune on it. ;)

    I'm also trying to keep it to a few themes and series and have been trying to sell/trade a lot of my other items, but it keeps being hard to resist some non-list items every once in a while. ;)
    Il y a 3 ans
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    Maakie (Il y a 3 ans) #4223360The proportions and the way she holds the sword? It's just so akward all togther.
    Yeah, it also depends a lot on the experience and quality of the sculptor.
    Oh lol, I do get bashed a lot. But they don't bash me for not liking something (such as Alter), they rather bash me for the brands I do like. For example, I'm a big fan of Kotobukiya. Their quality isn't the best always, but they have the best price and quality ratio on the market currently and they also dare to make a lot of figures other brands wouldn't do (such as male protagonists). People get mad a lot of times when they hear that, because they think the figures are not up to par with figures that are 2x the price...yeah, you read that right.
    The worst part is that the most expensive Alter I own dropped 50% in price on the aftermarket... I actually want to get rid of her, but with such a low value I feel bad about it. I overpayed so greatly for something I didn't like in the end... A lot of prize figures get talked bad about, but I have been impressed by a lot too! Furyu especially is making really big improvements!
    Nowadays I try to buy only from series and characters I like and I don't buy figures because their prototypes look pretty. I think that was what caused most disappointments in the past for me, because I was fixated too much on quality.


    I also don't understand the cold treatment against Kotobukiya. There are not doing exuberant pieces of art, but their figures are generally honest for the price. I bought a lot of their garage kits back in the days and it was always top notch, well engineered and fun to assemble. And their products are generally less sexy, which is sometimes a good thing.

    We all have the same problem about paying very high price for figures that get binned a few months or year laters for no apparent reason. Always hard to tell before hand. Though I perfectly understand the pre-order necessity, it also makes every buy almost a gamble.

    I consider prize figures the best deal out there. You can get very decent figures for 8$ to 18$ and most of them don't look silly. Also, they dare to do a lot of characters from many series. And when they turn out to be bad, the economic loss is negligeable.

    True, there's no point in buying every cute figure out there. I'm not immune to that and used to buy what I found cute many years ago. You quickly learn "cute" shouldn't be a criteria while dealing with this hobby! I've learned to keep the collection centered around a few major themes. I tell myself there's a lot of people to buy the things I can't and they will post great pictures to enjoy.
    Il y a 3 ans
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    sailormatlac (Il y a 3 ans) #4175720Weird pose indeed! Hard to tell what's exactly wrong, just plainly... wrong.
    I had the same experiences with all other scale models I collect and build. Most of the time, my judgement is on a per case basis. There's too much parameters that can affect the final product. It's only that some companies have better hit or miss ratio... but they aren't perfect.
    Most people want to be on the winner's side by association. They do so by worshipping brand names as paragons of virtue. At least people here don't bash you for sharing strong opinions. And yes, I also bought some Alter figures on reputation and felt they didn't match up the expectation. And I was greatly impressed by some Sega prize... At least, that's the fun thing in this hobby, it's hard to predict what's going to turn out well.



    The proportions and the way she holds the sword? It's just so akward all togther.

    Yeah, it also depends a lot on the experience and quality of the sculptor.

    Oh lol, I do get bashed a lot. But they don't bash me for not liking something (such as Alter), they rather bash me for the brands I do like. For example, I'm a big fan of Kotobukiya. Their quality isn't the best always, but they have the best price and quality ratio on the market currently and they also dare to make a lot of figures other brands wouldn't do (such as male protagonists). People get mad a lot of times when they hear that, because they think the figures are not up to par with figures that are 2x the price...yeah, you read that right.

    The worst part is that the most expensive Alter I own dropped 50% in price on the aftermarket... I actually want to get rid of her, but with such a low value I feel bad about it. I overpayed so greatly for something I didn't like in the end... A lot of prize figures get talked bad about, but I have been impressed by a lot too! Furyu especially is making really big improvements!

    Nowadays I try to buy only from series and characters I like and I don't buy figures because their prototypes look pretty. I think that was what caused most disappointments in the past for me, because I was fixated too much on quality.
    Il y a 3 ans
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    Maakie (Il y a 3 ans) #4152705With my opinion about Griffon, it's a lot of times more about weird posing and/or outfits than the quality. For example ITEM #167470 is just so awkward....
    You see that with a lot of places where figure collectors come together. There is some sort of group-thinking about how a certain manufacturer is good or bad. For example here on MFC I always see crazy praising for Alter. I once got an Alter figure with quite some defects and disappointments and made a review from it and suddenly all those Alter-praisers were nowhere to be found... :)
    For me my first contact was their prepainted resin and polystones and those are still nice, even many years after their release. :)


    Weird pose indeed! Hard to tell what's exactly wrong, just plainly... wrong.

    I had the same experiences with all other scale models I collect and build. Most of the time, my judgement is on a per case basis. There's too much parameters that can affect the final product. It's only that some companies have better hit or miss ratio... but they aren't perfect.

    Most people want to be on the winner's side by association. They do so by worshipping brand names as paragons of virtue. At least people here don't bash you for sharing strong opinions. And yes, I also bought some Alter figures on reputation and felt they didn't match up the expectation. And I was greatly impressed by some Sega prize... At least, that's the fun thing in this hobby, it's hard to predict what's going to turn out well.
    Il y a 3 ans
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    sailormatlac (Il y a 3 ans) #4059755Thanks Maakie. Griffon deserves the hate many times, but it seems many people are also blinded by their hate. I stumbled upon a review of Kirino on Reddit and they were trashing the figure saying the sculpt was bad, the paint job horrific and the seamlines inacceptable. There was some kind of consensus about it being the "typical" Griffon trainwreck. Honestly, such slandering is far to be objective and the pictures tell another story. I suspect these people didn't see the figure in real life and are just trolling for the fun of it.
    My first contact with Griffon was their old garage kits. Most were full of intricate details and generally well done for the time.


    With my opinion about Griffon, it's a lot of times more about weird posing and/or outfits than the quality. For example ITEM #167470 is just so awkward....

    You see that with a lot of places where figure collectors come together. There is some sort of group-thinking about how a certain manufacturer is good or bad. For example here on MFC I always see crazy praising for Alter. I once got an Alter figure with quite some defects and disappointments and made a review from it and suddenly all those Alter-praisers were nowhere to be found... :)

    For me my first contact was their prepainted resin and polystones and those are still nice, even many years after their release. :)
    Il y a 3 ans
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    Maakie (Il y a 3 ans) #4046897Oh my...I'm completely impressed. And then also if you take in account that she is so huge!!!
    A lot of people give Griffon hate, but they seem to be especially better in quality with their higher-end figures. I own multiple of their polystone figures and those are almost perfect in my eyes. :)
    Nice review with a lot of good pictures! ^^


    Thanks Maakie. Griffon deserves the hate many times, but it seems many people are also blinded by their hate. I stumbled upon a review of Kirino on Reddit and they were trashing the figure saying the sculpt was bad, the paint job horrific and the seamlines inacceptable. There was some kind of consensus about it being the "typical" Griffon trainwreck. Honestly, such slandering is far to be objective and the pictures tell another story. I suspect these people didn't see the figure in real life and are just trolling for the fun of it.

    My first contact with Griffon was their old garage kits. Most were full of intricate details and generally well done for the time.
    Il y a 3 ans
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