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“Franchise fuel” an analysisCommentaires • “Franchise fuel” an analysis

  • 2pt
    AshuriiKareshi (Il y a 3 mois) #48375186To be honest I think this is an interesting way to think about it. I don't think we'll ever know for sure why certain figures are made (it'll vary from company to company). Obviously they'll be trying to make what's popular because they need to make money off of them, but there's figures like ORs touken ranbu scales. These scales always bin, pretty much every single one. So why do they continue to give us more and more characters? If it was purely based on money then I would thought they would have stopped after the first few binned. But I don't know, I'm probably missing some kind of information. It's an interesting overview though ^^
    That's actually a good point, I think it might be because it took so long for some of the TR scales to come out. When they were first announced TR was still very popular, but the hype has largely died down after all the delays so people might have dropped their orders at the last minute. I'm not sure why they picked some of the characters they did either, since they went for a few obscure characters instead of the fan favorites and starters. I'm still waiting for a Yoshiyuki nendo ;; Definitely something to think about though, since they're still announcing new figures.

    Edit: Lmao why did someone downvote my comment? The hype over Touken Ranbu has dropped significantly (at least in the West) and some of the figures started to bin, that's just a fact.
    Il y a 3 mois
    3pt
    ZoidsFanatic2 (Il y a 3 mois) #48362297I’m going to add that Japan and the West have very different ways with “obscure” series (the ones you listed aren’t). In Japan, from my understand and I could be wrong here, they’re only interested in what’s hot now and once it’s up it’s up and will be tossed aside for the next thing. So the reason Fate, Miku, and... um... is Pac-Man still a thing? We’ll go with it. So that’s why Fate, Miku, and he likes of Pac-Man can still sell as they can retain relevancy. That’s why the new Zoids Wild, for example, is selling itself on being new and not linked to the old franchise at all which has become rather obsecure.
    Here in the West, nostalgia drives a hefty place in the market. Just look how many Kickstarters there are for “retro games”. Not to mention the likes of Bucky O’Hare getting a new action figure line thanks in part to the fans.
    So basically different strokes for different folks. The reason why figure companies aren’t touching franchises like you listed are simply because they’re not really in right now, or will ever be in, with the Japanese market. Their main market. Really outside GSC a lot of figure companies don’t give much of a shit for us Westerns as we don’t have the buying power compared to the Japanese market.



    I think Koto is probably the king of western licenses and figures. They have a huge, dedicated fanbase that collects their Art FX(?) stuff. They even have the GI Joe line going and the My Little Ponies which are really unexpected but welcomed! But yeah other than GSC and Koto I couldn’t see other companies touching western licenses. Except for Amakuni’s random Gwenpool
    Il y a 3 mois
    0pt
    You're right, the problem isn't them making figures from popular franchises.
    The real problem is they're doing fuck all besides that.

    -And it's a good thing!-
    Il y a 3 mois
    5pt
    To be honest I think this is an interesting way to think about it. I don't think we'll ever know for sure why certain figures are made (it'll vary from company to company). Obviously they'll be trying to make what's popular because they need to make money off of them, but there's figures like ORs touken ranbu scales. These scales always bin, pretty much every single one. So why do they continue to give us more and more characters? If it was purely based on money then I would thought they would have stopped after the first few binned. But I don't know, I'm probably missing some kind of information. It's an interesting overview though ^^
    Il y a 3 mois
    6pt
    I believe its more to do with drawing in new customers and widening their audience.
    Hot Toys released Belle from Beauty and the Beast which is pretty far away from their usual releases and still everything but a niche franchise. The people who bought where likely not regular Hot Toys customers, they may have never heard of them. Releasing figures of franchises outside a companys comfort zone grants exposure and chance of future sales. Its also business practise not to rely too much on one. What if Marvel ends one day or becomes unpopular? In that case Hot Toys has still tested other franchises.

    And as someone else pointed out, none of the franchises you mentioned are obscure: Sticking with Hot Toys f. ex.. Fantastic Beasts is huge right now. Even Kotobukiya and Banpresto have snapped up the license.

    Companies dont want to 'flaunt their talents'. This is business, there is no room for vanity. They got to make money and every decision of theirs is about that.
    Il y a 3 mois
    20pt
    I’m going to add that Japan and the West have very different ways with “obscure” series (the ones you listed aren’t). In Japan, from my understand and I could be wrong here, they’re only interested in what’s hot now and once it’s up it’s up and will be tossed aside for the next thing. So the reason Fate, Miku, and... um... is Pac-Man still a thing? We’ll go with it. So that’s why Fate, Miku, and he likes of Pac-Man can still sell as they can retain relevancy. That’s why the new Zoids Wild, for example, is selling itself on being new and not linked to the old franchise at all which has become rather obsecure.

    Here in the West, nostalgia drives a hefty place in the market. Just look how many Kickstarters there are for “retro games”. Not to mention the likes of Bucky O’Hare getting a new action figure line thanks in part to the fans.

    So basically different strokes for different folks. The reason why figure companies aren’t touching franchises like you listed are simply because they’re not really in right now, or will ever be in, with the Japanese market. Their main market. Really outside GSC a lot of figure companies don’t give much of a shit for us Westerns as we don’t have the buying power compared to the Japanese market.
    Il y a 3 mois
    10pt
    Pretty sure none of the franchises you pointed out are actually obscure, though. I think everyone knows Winnie the Pooh and The Matrix, even if they're not into Japanese media. And as it's been pointed out multiple times recently, Fate and Miku are far from monopolizing the entire industry even though they get many figures. Hell, even companies that have big licenses like Marvel tend to make the same characters over and over so there's definitely room for more. There's five Iron Man nendos plus Iron Patriot and an accessory set, and I'm still personally waiting for Bucky even though their opportunity to make one's probably passed by now. And PUBG Guy is likely just a promo stunt. At least Fate has some character variety unlike some past trends, like Sonico and Hestia.

    Sales from the popular figures definitely do help the industry though! That leaves companies a safety net to fall back on in case a few licenses they take a gamble on do poorly in sales. I'm personally excited to see what's announced at Wonfes after some of the unexpected releases recently, since imo there's a nice amount of variety right now. I'm still happy that we're finally getting some nice Banana Fish figures and I'm hoping to see some updates on the P5 figures that were announced awhile ago.
    Il y a 3 mois
    19pt
    Heaven forbid a lot of people like the same things some of the time.
    Also, I would not call LoK "obscure" blame the lack of merch on Viacom.

    Edit:
    I do feel bad for OP and others who have "franchise fatigue" but companies don't care what they make only that it sells, it's not like there is some conspiracy
    Il y a 3 mois
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