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Tips on avoiding bootleg listings? (ebay)Tips on avoiding bootleg listings? (ebay)

rachel17rachel17Il y a 26 joursAsk MFC
I’m still only about a year into collecting so I’m surprised I didn’t fall for this stuff earlier, but I purchased a bootleg miku fig about a month ago on ebay. This is her;
https://static.myfigurecollection.net/image/rachel171557443653.jpeg
The seller used official photos and the listing seemed legit so I didn’t think anything of it. I noted she looked weird on arrival but I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt, so I assumed maybe she was just not a great fig. I recently confirmed that she is in fact a bootleg tho. I’m disappointed, I spent around 30$ on her and I can’t return her.

I’m wondering if more experienced collectors have any tips on avoiding bootlegs? I’ve been lucky so far, but I’d like to avoid this happening again in the future. I order my figures off ebay mostly. Thanks!

EDIT: Thank you all so much!
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17pt
Everyone saying not to buy on ebay I disagree. I have found several great deals on hard to find figures that are all authentic. Obviously, as others have said, I avoid anything that lists china as the shipping country. Not that all are fakes but it's easier to just avoid.
Also, check reviews as sellers-- not just what percent or how many reviews, because this can be artificially inflated, but look at the most recent reviews of the seller and see what other items have been sold.

I am actually more worried as a seller on ebay than a buyer, because ebay and paypal always support the buyer, not seller in disputes.

P.S. Lately, I have seen some Chinese knockoffs being sold from" Canada" but when I read more, it's clear it's still from china/ a knock off. Good luck!
Il y a 26 jours
13pt
sarious Chino is Life
My five main tips are:

Make sure it comes from either Japan or America. China will be 100% chance of bootleg. Anything from SEA region is the same as China. Any other country is iffy.

Also, make sure the description specifically says authentic with no uncertainty. This way they're held liable if you get a bootleg and you'll get a refund. Some stuff from America that is bootleg will say something along the lines of "china version". I have never seen a bootleg posted from Japan.

If they say it doesn't come with a box or has box on request, it's almost for sure a bootleg. Only time I saw a legit one without a box was the Lucy from Fairy Tail figure I have. They made it very clear it was authentic and was collector to collector sale in America. Was shipped in separated parts. Box was likely damaged beyond repair or sold to them by an amateur collector who threw out box.

Make sure to check the seller's feedback. Check positive, neutral and negative feedback. Collectors will generally post feedback saying if it was authentic or not.

Fifth, check MFC's official and bootleg picture section and compare (especially boxes). I see people saying not to buy if it uses stock images which I strongly disagree with. A lot of these sellers have warehouses and sell on various sites and can't provide you with a specific picture. All bootleg postings I've seen have used pictures of the bootlegs and their boxes made to look professional.

I've bought a large portion of my collection from ebay without ever getting bootlegs using this. Even met my friend who now does forwarding for me there.
Il y a 26 jours
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1pt
3 simple rules to avoid 99% of bootlegs:

• If the seller is from China, it's a fake.

• If the description says "unbranded" or "China version", it's a fake.

• If they're not from Japan, make sure the seller says "authentic" in their listing.
Il y a 22 jours
0pt
sarious Chino is Life
hikaridranz (Il y a 23 jours) #599303441. High chance of bootleg from China, not 100%. There are Chinese collectors too but few on Ebay since Chinese platforms would be easier, plus discouraging avoid-china advice means why bother. There are way fewer bootlegs seen in shops in SEA (Singapore particularly) these days than a decade ago. 'Any other country is iffy' is kinda America-centric, no.
2. There are bootlegs even on Japanese sites. Seen before.
3. Not everyone keeps their boxes for various reasons, doesn't mean it's 'amateur'. If it's provided only on demand then it's iffy. The other info like style of photos uploaded + feedback + how they write their description should be more telling than simply a missing box.


1. This question is about Ebay. Not talking about other sites.

I'm writing from my experiences. I've bought probably 50 figures and lots of goods on ebay.

There are plenty of other good sites in China (especially Hong Kong). Same goes for SEA.

Don't bring politics into this. My post is based on my experience on Ebay and not political bias.

2. Yes, there are bootlegs on JP sites, but like I said I've never seen one on Ebay and this question is about Ebay and I'm not saying there are none, just very low amount if any on there.

3. I'm not trying to be offensive by saying amateur. When I started I didn't realize boxes were important and luckily only threw out prize figure ones. As I said, there are exceptions to no box as with the figure I got.

However, a lot of ones without box and the majority of ones with box as an option are bootleg.

Clearly there are better ways than just missing a box. That's what my entire post is about. If it meets one of the criteria I mentioned it's not necessarily a bootleg. Can't assume that on just one.

As I stated in original post, stock photos of non-bootleg most likely mean it's a seller with a warehouse selling on multiple sites. Not a bootlegger.

I've never seen a bootleg post that used images of the original. The pics are made to look high quality, however they are of the bootleg themselves. That's why you compare to MFC pics.
Il y a 23 jours
0pt
sarious (Il y a 26 jours) #59690131...

1. High chance of bootleg from China, not 100%. There are Chinese collectors too but few on Ebay since Chinese platforms would be easier, plus discouraging avoid-china advice means why bother. There are way fewer bootlegs seen in shops in SEA (Singapore particularly) these days than a decade ago. 'Any other country is iffy' is kinda America-centric, no.

2. There are bootlegs even on Japanese sites. Seen before.

3. Not everyone keeps their boxes for various reasons, doesn't mean it's 'amateur'. If it's provided only on demand then it's iffy. The other info like style of photos uploaded + feedback + how they write their description should be more telling than simply a missing box.
Il y a 23 jours
2pt
As an ebay seller myself (like really, where do one sell a figure other than here, locally or ebay?), I can recommend paying attention to 'real' photos of the product and 'human' like description.
When selling, I always state where the figure was bought (like amiami, biginjap etc.)
When doubting, you can contact the seller, ask for additional photos or order screenshot (the final step if you still have doubts).
Il y a 24 jours
1pt
Never anything from China. Only Japan or NA for me. I'm even wary of listings that only use the stock photos of the figures and hold out for ones taken showing it in the box
Il y a 25 jours
1pt
There are some great points already made here below. I would just like to add is that if the seller is someone not located in China, and seems to have their store dedicated to buying/selling comic book, manga, anime related content for sometime now, then that is also a good sign that you can probably trust them. So take a look at all their listings, past listings, and so forth.
Il y a 25 jours
7pt
If you bought her on eBay recently you may still have time to ask for a refund under guise of "Item not as Described". Even if a seller insists on no returns eBay, Paypal, or your credit card outfit can easily overturn that and grant you a 100% or partial refund. And even though some eBay sellers want the buyer to pay for return shipping eBay more than likely will require seller to cover that cost also re Returns once initiated.

I've read many comments you've gotten already, likely from well-intentioned MFCers. I'm really curious though about not buying any figurine "Made in China". Gee, I've purchased many Japanese Version figurines over the years both new and preowned direct from AmiAmi; new from BIJ, HobbySearch, HLJ, occasionally Nippon-Yasan for the Limited-Exclusives not sold direct to non-Japanese residents, plus other lesser known Japanese vendors and 95% of those figurine boxes do read in plain English if you know where to look "Made in China" (excepting Oreimo figurines where a few were produced in Vietnam). Some of these boxes even have the official shiny seal from the Japanese licensor (Kadokawa, etc).

Though I'm not crazy about the platform Ebay finally created listing options a few months ago for sellers selling figurines where one can state Country of Origin (i.e. intellectual property) is Japan while Country of Manufacture, if we're really honest about what we list, is still CN aka China.

Stock photos: this is can't win dilemma here for an eBay seller. Many buyers insist tape on the carton be broken by them. Some buyers will NOT purchase a figure if the manufacturer tape on the display box has been cut: complying with wanna see drops Sale Grade from A or B+ to B. So, to placate the folks who wish to see the figure up close a seller has to open carton, remove figurine, photograph accordingly, put back in carton gingerly while hoping no part got juggled, broke off accidentally while so doing. The figure previously untouched positioned in the carton is now B grade regardless whereas had stock footage been used figure untouched will fetch A, B+ grade price, assuming it's saleable.

Vendor(s) making too much money on eBay: Lol, that comment alone would make a cat laugh. I could comment on that but much of what I'm thinking is unprintable. In the 10+ years I've sold items using eBay as a selling platform I've "made" money on about 60 items from the not quite 4000 sold.

It's getting quite hard to break even using eBay. If I sell anything anime related it's usually account mistakenly bought 2 of same item, not in love with franchise any more, or flat out need the room.

It's ashamed you had a poor buying experience using eBay as a source for product enjoyment. Not all eBay sellers are like what you endured. Many work darn hard to make any buyer's experience, be it 1st time or repeat, a satisfying one.
Il y a 25 jours
7pt
If you're unsure, ask the seller if it is the Chinese Version (ie, bootleg) or Japanese Version (ie, authentic). They will tell you the truth -- they make far too much money on ebay to risk having their account terminated for lying. Ebay is actually super strict about not allowing sellers to say something is authentic when it isn't.
Il y a 26 jours
1pt
Rajke Ca Fanatic
-With official pictures it can pay the effort to ask for pictures the seller made him/herself.
-With stolen pictures from this site it is automatically a no.
-I look indeed like others mentioned for the term authentic.
-Sometimes the seller wants to be paid with crypto like bitcoin. This is a red flag.
Il y a 26 jours
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