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  • Mounting LED strips at 45° (instead of straight up/down/sideways) significantly improves lighting uniformity. Applied to my Detolfs :

    https://static.myfigurecollection.net/upload/pictures/2020/04/22/2426578.jpeg
    Il y a 3 mois
    arparsoIl y a 3 mois#79692329I'm just not sure how best to mount them to the glass shelves.

    Special channels for glass shelf with a 30 degree angle (the best one when I did my experiments today) do exist... It would provide an extremely elegant solution.

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    Il y a 3 mois
    arparsoIl y a 3 mois#79692329You should be able to purchase aluminium profiles with a 45° angle for LED strips, I'm just not sure how best to mount them to the glass shelves. I haven't had much luck with double sided tape. It's barely enough to keep the LED strip in place, let alone a much heavier aluminium profile.
    I tried a similar solution on a (wooden) shelf once, but I didn't like the look in the end.


    I would use glass shelf clips cemented with epoxy the aluminium profile: . That way, no need to rely on tape and it is 100% amovible. I certainly wouldn't trust two-faced adhesive tape.

    arparsoIl y a 3 mois#79692329The shelf was already small and putting an aluminium bar at the top made it appear even smaller (and didn't fit in with the wood color). Also, the single piece of LED strip somehow wasn't quite bright enough to really light up all the figures. Maybe that was just my shitty LED strip or maybe the diffuser of the aluminium profile blocking too much light - never really bothered to find out and removed this piece of lighting.

    I use 60 LED/m stripes (model 5050). They are really powerful and when you combine the cool white with the RGB white, you get really interesting results which are about a 3000K white (warm white also available). But yes, a lot of shitty LED strips out there with not enough LED to light decently anything. I did a few tries playing with the RGB LED. When combine with white, it is possible to create really subtle color effects that aren't garish. I must admit, I was surprised, I felt it would be a real gimmick, but I see some potential behind that idea. Basically, you can optimize the color rendition or dial down something warmer.

    The aluminium profile must be quite small. Anything more than a 12mm x 12mm angle would look out of place. That said, I found out the difference between an angle LED strip and one perfectly horizontal is marginal. I'm not even sure it is worth bothering. I think using a regular aluminium angle, perhaps removing a few mm on a table saw, could provide a very thin LED strip that would look both slick and provide heat dissipation. In fact, it would be almost as economical to use specially made channels: [url=]www.amazon.ca/A....

    arparsoIl y a 3 mois#79692329The LED pucks I linked to on Amazon? I purchased the warm-white version. Maybe the photo makes it look a bit more neutral than it actually is.
    I believe the LEDBERGs have a color temperature of 2700K and the warm-white pucks I bought are 3000K, according to the description. If you see them side by side, the difference is extremely obvious. The neutral ones should be 4500K, so much "cooler". I actually wonder what the neutral white would look like - in theory, it should bring out the colors even better with no color tint by the light itself, but might look a little too cool or clinical.


    Good! 3000K is certainly warm, but generally good enough for our purpose. LEDBERGs are indeed 2700.

    As for neutral, I'm pretty sure is will look quite cooler, probably too much for interior design. On the other hand, if the goal is to take pictures, it would be advisable. I dabble a lot with model trains and I know a few people who installed two sets of lights: a warmer one for everyday use and daylight ones for pictures.

    I'll continue experimenting. I took a few better pictures with different setup. I think I'm close to something that would be interesting. One thing is sure, lighting isn't an afterthought.
    Il y a 3 mois
    sailormatlacIl y a 3 mois#79691793However, I feel I'll have to create a custom and universal mount for the stripes, probably an aluminium angle with some kind of clamp to fit the glass shelves. As for the wire, I guess I'll find a way.
    You should be able to purchase aluminium profiles with a 45° angle for LED strips, I'm just not sure how best to mount them to the glass shelves. I haven't had much luck with double sided tape. It's barely enough to keep the LED strip in place, let alone a much heavier aluminium profile.

    I tried a similar solution on a (wooden) shelf once, but I didn't like the look in the end. The shelf was already small and putting an aluminium bar at the top made it appear even smaller (and didn't fit in with the wood color). Also, the single piece of LED strip somehow wasn't quite bright enough to really light up all the figures. Maybe that was just my shitty LED strip or maybe the diffuser of the aluminium profile blocking too much light - never really bothered to find out and removed this piece of lighting.

    sailormatlacIl y a 3 mois#79691991Did you use warm white or neutral white? Seems to be neutral to me. THanks
    The LED pucks I linked to on Amazon? I purchased the warm-white version. Maybe the photo makes it look a bit more neutral than it actually is.

    I believe the LEDBERGs have a color temperature of 2700K and the warm-white pucks I bought are 3000K, according to the description. If you see them side by side, the difference is extremely obvious. The neutral ones should be 4500K, so much "cooler". I actually wonder what the neutral white would look like - in theory, it should bring out the colors even better with no color tint by the light itself, but might look a little too cool or clinical.
    Il y a 3 mois
    arparsoIl y a 3 mois#79690260Very interesting article! I find good lighting to be essential for a good presentation of the figure and have tried a few variants as well.
    I've also tried using IKEA Ledbergs and generally like their warm color. As you already found out, they don't play nice with every figure and colorful paints will get a little lost in the warm, orange-ish light cast by the Ledbergs. However, my biggest gripe is their narrow cone of light. The item directly below the Ledberg puck is brightly lit, but figures standing slightly to the side look very dark in comparison. This is great if you want to put focus on one figure only, but terrible if you have a crowded shelf to light up.
    Then I tried LED strips. They can be a bit of a pain to setup and ideally you want to hide them somewhere, so you never have to see the bare LED strip itself. This does not work with all types of shelves or cabinets. In my case, I could hide them off to the right side and behind a center column:
    (NSFW warning, lewd figures in the image)
    Voir le spoilerCacher le spoilerhttps://funkyimg.com/p/35YRD.jpg- still a cosy warm-wwhite color, but much more neutral and not as orange as the Ledbergs
    - much more natural colors on the lit up figures


    Did you use warm white or neutral white? Seems to be neutral to me. THanks
    Il y a 3 mois
    arparsoIl y a 3 mois#79690260I put two of these LED pucks above every shelf, near the front edge so I would not get too much shadows on the figures standing in the front. The result looks great, I think. Of course, there are still shadows everywhere, but the wide cone of light from multiple LED pucks as well as the bright white shelf reflecting all that light back on the figures makes for a fairly even spread all around.
    Really worth a try if you like the Ledbergs already.


    I did some more experiments this afternoon after reading your comment. I had an old RGB+W LED stripes mounted on a piece of wood (about 1m long).

    Basically, I placed the LED stripe just on the edge of each glass shelf and the result looked promising. No longer harsh shadows in the background, an even lighting of the figures and better overall color render. I also played with the RGB setting. By combining the RGB and White, I got some interesting hues. Nothing harsh, but just enough to have a warm and cozy setting and another one with a higher CRI for better colors. The trick was to place the stripe at 45 degrees.

    Then, I came to my mind to simply let the Ledberg pucks there. You're right, their cone is extremely narrow... almost criminally! ;-) Well, I think it is well-suited for some purpose when you want to highlight some spots.

    What I found is having the Ledberg on add relief to the figures by highlighting some parts. The warmer glow also brings some life and helps to minimize the even lighting produced by the LED stripe.

    Also, keeping the indirect LEDBERG also created interesting spotlight effects that aren't too harsh and created interesting patterns on the backdrop. It is my suspicion using RGB for the indirect lighting could have a certain merit.

    Now, would I replace the LEDBERG on top of the shelves? Maybe... but at this point, they are quite good at creating lighting effects which is exactly what I was looking for.

    However, if I need (and I will) puck to light other display cases, namely some Kallax, I would go with the pucks you recommenced both for the better color rendering and larger cone.

    Honestly, this is taking a really interesting turn I didn't expect.

    However, I feel I'll have to create a custom and universal mount for the stripes, probably an aluminium angle with some kind of clamp to fit the glass shelves. As for the wire, I guess I'll find a way.
    Il y a 3 mois
    arparsoIl y a 3 mois#79690260Very interesting article! I find good lighting to be essential for a good presentation of the figure and have tried a few variants as well.
    I've also tried using IKEA Ledbergs and generally like their warm color. As you already found out, they don't play nice with every figure and colorful paints will get a little lost in the warm, orange-ish light cast by the Ledbergs. However, my biggest gripe is their narrow cone of light. The item directly below the Ledberg puck is brightly lit, but figures standing slightly to the side look very dark in comparison. This is great if you want to put focus on one figure only, but terrible if you have a crowded shelf to light up.
    Then I tried LED strips. They can be a bit of a pain to setup and ideally you want to hide them somewhere, so you never have to see the bare LED strip itself. This does not work with all types of shelves or cabinets. In my case, I could hide them off to the right side and behind a center column:
    (NSFW warning, lewd figures in the image)
    Voir le spoilerCacher le spoilerhttps://funkyimg.com/p/35YRD.jpg
    (the picture is from 2018, so a little outdated - ignore the green/blue color cast in the center-right - there was a cabling issue so the RGB LEDs did not function correctly at the time)

    I used RGB LEDs, but would not recommend them. How often do you really want to change the color in your figure shelf? Using colored light means, you don't get to see the great paint on your expensive treasures. RGB LEDs are also terrible at producing neutral white. I settled with a pink-ish white color tone and am pretty happy with the results, but would probably try proper white LED strips the next time (neutral or warm-white).
    Also got myself a new Billy bookcase with glass shelves a few months ago and initally attempted to light them using the IKEA Ledbergs. The shelves are quite crowded and the Ledbergs just could not handle it well - their narrow cone of light lit up only a few figures with most others hidden in the shadows.
    I got rid of the Ledbergs and got these instead: www.amazon.de/g...
    Let me tell you, they are soooo much better:
    - still a cosy warm-wwhite color, but much more neutral and not as orange as the Ledbergs
    - much more natural colors on the lit up figures
    - cone of light is much wider, so the light hits way more figures even when they are really close to the light
    - much brighter than Ledbergs
    - allow dimming, so the brightness is adjustable
    (NSFW warning, lewd figures in the image)
    Voir le spoilerCacher le spoilerhttps://static.myfigurecollection.net/upload/pictures/2020/05/10/thumbnails/2435225.jpeg
    I put two of these LED pucks above every shelf, near the front edge so I would not get too much shadows on the figures standing in the front. The result looks great, I think. Of course, there are still shadows everywhere, but the wide cone of light from multiple LED pucks as well as the bright white shelf reflecting all that light back on the figures makes for a fairly even spread all around.
    Really worth a try if you like the Ledbergs already.


    Thank for the interesting commemt. Indeed, the LEDBERG are flawed by their too warm color and smallish cone. They are useful, but the limitations show themselves when trying to go to the next level.

    I agree with RGB LED, they are basically a gimmick, except if using the various colors is part of a concept and used frequently. Otherwise, it's a waste of money and CRI.

    I'm not a fan of LED stripes. They wash the figure a little bit too much to my taste, but your setup seems to work well with that particular set of shelves. It was probably the right move.

    The cabinet LED you mention are quite interesting indeed. The improved colors are quite noticeable and light scatter better due to the larger cone. That could be a serious option to consider. Adding pucks under the glass shelves does improve the look too. But I must admit I'm on the fence having to deal with a lot of wires running everywhere in the cabinets. That said, I suspect you quickly stop noticing them since the figures do steal the show in the end!

    I'll continue experimenting and probably will see how I can improve the setup with better pucks later on. Looks good so far! Thanks for sharing again!
    Il y a 3 mois
    Very interesting article! I find good lighting to be essential for a good presentation of the figure and have tried a few variants as well.

    I've also tried using IKEA Ledbergs and generally like their warm color. As you already found out, they don't play nice with every figure and colorful paints will get a little lost in the warm, orange-ish light cast by the Ledbergs. However, my biggest gripe is their narrow cone of light. The item directly below the Ledberg puck is brightly lit, but figures standing slightly to the side look very dark in comparison. This is great if you want to put focus on one figure only, but terrible if you have a crowded shelf to light up.

    Then I tried LED strips. They can be a bit of a pain to setup and ideally you want to hide them somewhere, so you never have to see the bare LED strip itself. This does not work with all types of shelves or cabinets. In my case, I could hide them off to the right side and behind a center column:

    (NSFW warning, lewd figures in the image)
    Voir le spoilerCacher le spoilerhttps://funkyimg.com/p/35YRD.jpg
    (the picture is from 2018, so a little outdated - ignore the green/blue color cast in the center-right - there was a cabling issue so the RGB LEDs did not function correctly at the time)


    I used RGB LEDs, but would not recommend them. How often do you really want to change the color in your figure shelf? Using colored light means, you don't get to see the great paint on your expensive treasures. RGB LEDs are also terrible at producing neutral white. I settled with a pink-ish white color tone and am pretty happy with the results, but would probably try proper white LED strips the next time (neutral or warm-white).

    Also got myself a new Billy bookcase with glass shelves a few months ago and initally attempted to light them using the IKEA Ledbergs. The shelves are quite crowded and the Ledbergs just could not handle it well - their narrow cone of light lit up only a few figures with most others hidden in the shadows.

    I got rid of the Ledbergs and got these instead: www.amazon.de/g...

    Let me tell you, they are soooo much better:
    - still a cosy warm-wwhite color, but much more neutral and not as orange as the Ledbergs
    - much more natural colors on the lit up figures
    - cone of light is much wider, so the light hits way more figures even when they are really close to the light
    - much brighter than Ledbergs
    - allow dimming, so the brightness is adjustable

    (NSFW warning, lewd figures in the image)
    Voir le spoilerCacher le spoilerhttps://static.myfigurecollection.net/upload/pictures/2020/05/10/thumbnails/2435225.jpeg

    I put two of these LED pucks above every shelf, near the front edge so I would not get too much shadows on the figures standing in the front. The result looks great, I think. Of course, there are still shadows everywhere, but the wide cone of light from multiple LED pucks as well as the bright white shelf reflecting all that light back on the figures makes for a fairly even spread all around.

    Really worth a try if you like the Ledbergs already.
    Il y a 3 mois
    Cool set up and cool lighting. I'm actually in the process of redoing my lighting on my collection as I am redoing my cabinetry. I have hue lights in my room which are pretty awesome because I can have different colors and brightnesses. I originally had top down lighting, but I think on my cabinets with doors I am going to do front on lighting with my figures ... still planning it out.
    Il y a 3 mois
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