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Hitagi, Tsundere?

Hitagi, Tsundere?

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  • Pax416Regular Boarder
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    Hitagi Senjougahara, a scintillating stapler-weilding seductress and self-proclaimed 'tsundere'.

    I wouldn't say that she classifies as one due to being so straight-forward with her feelings (and whatever is on her mind). This contrasts the "hard yet secretly soft" underneath persona of the tsundere archetype.

    What do you think?
  • xxangelchanxxVery Important Boarder
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    I would say so but the good kind of tsundere not the bad kind like Louise.
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  • kumasanmkProducer
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    The self-consciousness of her being a Tsundere means she is not a "true" Tsundere.
  • AshlotteFull-time ReviewerVery Important Boarder
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    I thought she was more of a subversion of them, but that's just me. *shrug*
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  • C221Regular Boarder
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    If there's one thing I hate, it's forced moe archetypes.
    I think that Senjougahara strays from that, even if she jokes about it a lot.
    As you say, she is very blunt honest about her feelings and hides behind nothing.

    So I wouldn't really call her tsundere.
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  • DrcowRegular Boarder
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    She is not a true Tsundere, more a Yandere on certain aspects.

    For me she is a perfect mix between Tsundere ( trying to act like a Tsundere ) and Yandere ( Well that don't really need explaining :P ) :3
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  • Vambee-Lacuer
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    A lot of good points here. First as kumasanmk said she is self-conscious of it. Then as C221 said she jokes about it. She loves playing around with Koyomi, so I think it is just her way of getting at him. And yes, she is very honest and inexperienced with love so that could influence it. She's really very multi-dimensional, she seems too real to fit into one archetype.

    Her being Yandere is a hard call. I always want to say, "but she's not really insane or deranged" but Voir le spoilerCacher le spoilershe was put through some trauma and did say she would kill anyone that hurt Koyomi and that she wanted to die with him. But aren't those things that anyone in love would say? I dunno. The thing with the pen was extreme though.


    And I hate forced archetypes too. >_<
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  • C221Regular Boarder
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    I don't think there's much of anything to support the idea of her being Yandere.
    She -encourages- Araragi to be friendly and spend alone time with Kanbaru, her junior. Even if it seems a bit like she's testing him, she's not about to kill anyone that gets too close to him.
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  • DrcowRegular Boarder
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    No, but the yandere vibe she gave off for me atleast was with the pen treatment she gave to araragi when he asked her a qeustion about a female ( Kanbaru was it right? )
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  • C221Regular Boarder
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    Hmm, kind of. It's just obsessive though. It doesn't go to the point of actually killing anyone. Her threats become pretty empty after they start going out, I think.

    Well, more importantly, if we can't so easily identify her as tsundere or yandere or anything else, it should become pretty clear that they're not aiming for any of the moe archetypes with her, and I would personally prefer not to classify her as anything.

    To me, all of the jokes about her being tsundere feel like they're making fun of the whole obsession with these character types to begin with.
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  • DrcowRegular Boarder
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    True that. Her character is quite different then I used to the anime I watch.

    Was very happy her character didn't changed when she was "cured" and the conversation in the park was just awesome. How she went on giving him idea's and playing along with the dragonball reference.
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  • Vambee-Lacuer
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    C221Well, more importantly, if we can't so easily identify her as tsundere or yandere or anything else, it should become pretty clear that they're not aiming for any of the moe archetypes with her, and I would personally prefer not to classify her as anything.
    Very well said, that was supposed to be my main point. She is not meant to be any of those. She is Senjougahara Hitagi, and there is only one.
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  • kumasanmkProducer
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    Doesn't she just have a deep black and ironical humor? That's how I feel it. She just plays with those so called archetypes.
  • C221Regular Boarder
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    kumasanmkDoesn't she just have a deep black and ironical humor? That's how I feel it. She just play with those so called archetypes.
    Yes. The whole show has that sort of tone, really.
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  • Rukia121
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    xxangelchanxxI would say so but the good kind of tsundere not the bad kind like Louise.

    Everytime I see you i see you bashing Louise.

    Anyway i think its hard to say she might be.
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    I love Senjougahara Hitagi as herself, like the others before, i will NOT categorize her into those annoying MOE archetypes because it puts a label on the girl and usually Tsunderes lately are sterotypical pmsing lolis, nuff said.

    Senjougahara, what I love about her is her unique cynical talks and her tone gives off an elegant yet mysterious feel to her, like a princess feel, due to her royalty-level speeches. I love that her appearance matches a beautiful older teenager but unpredictable. She maintains a calm, collected exterior regardless of how she feels. She doesn't conceal her feelings, and will directly and honestly tell you how she feels.

    Hitagi's more like C.C, which is labeled under 'Kuudere' or 'defrosting ice queen': tvtropes.org/pm... "A kuudere is like snow: it may be cold and harsh at first glance but it is also what keeps autumn's seeds warm and safe until spring."
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  • FabriceVery Important Boarder
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    Yes she is a tsundere, a evil but also good/gorgeous/beatutiful/nice one =)
  • FgrClctnRegular Boarder
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    She's edgy and is at times barely holding on while still appearing to outwardly function in society. She was freed so she could face up to some tough realities, and those are enough to warp anyone. Her defense is to retaliate with absolutes and vitriol. The help that Araragi provided impressed her. I don't think she ever once denies or hides her gratitude, although she is impatient at his rightly cautious reluctance. She forthrightly presents herself as damaged and afraid. I don't believe she fits the "Tsundere" category, even though as others have noted, she identifies herself as one. A strangely satisfying character.
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    ShuheiI love Senjougahara Hitagi as herself, like the others before, i will NOT categorize her into those annoying MOE archetypes because it puts a label on the girl and usually Tsunderes lately are sterotypical pmsing lolis, nuff said.

    Senjougahara, what I love about her is her unique cynical talks and her tone gives off an elegant yet mysterious feel to her, like a princess feel, due to her royalty-level speeches. I love that her appearance matches a beautiful older teenager but unpredictable. She maintains a calm, collected exterior regardless of how she feels. She doesn't conceal her feelings, and will directly and honestly tell you how she feels.

    I think you nailed it, especially about the PMSing lolis. That's probably why I don't like Shana, Louise, Taiga, and Nagi. Hey, they all have the same voice actress, Rie Kugimiya. Go figure.

    en.wikipedia.or...
    Here's a the wiki link to Tsundere. What you know, Bakemonogatari is mentioned.
  • bomhatbecause I'm batmanRegular Boarder
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    shes very direct and in my opinion isnt tsundere at all. i dont see much tsun nor do i see dere.
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